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Ylva Johansson “It is not in reality a migration disaster. It is a geopolitical disaster.”


Méabh Mc Mahon, Euronews

Hi there, and welcome to the World Dialog right here on Euronews. I”m joined now via Ylva Johansson, the Ecu Commissioner liable for House Affairs and migration, and we right here to speak about the continued humanitarian state of affairs at the EU’s border with Belarus. Ylva Johansson, thanks such a lot for being our visitor these days and taking time to be at the World Dialog.

Now, a crew from Euronews is simply again from the border area, they usually stated the location there used to be appalling, deteriorating via the day. We heard the similar from the Council of Europe’s Human Rights Commissioner. So, I would identical to to invite you, are you happy together with your reaction to the location up to now?

Ylva Johansson, EU Commissioner for House Affairs

We at the moment are in state of affairs the place it is de-escalating. In fact, you’ll by no means be happy you probably have other folks, human beings in a freezing space. We now have observed a number of deaths. Kids are in a hard state of affairs. In fact, you’ll’t be happy with that. But additionally, I am happy that we’ve got been ready to have a transparent reaction that Lukashenko, a determined regime, also known as the final dictator in Europe, has been seeking to promote unlawful tickets to the Ecu Union.

Méabh Mc Mahon, Euronews

But when the EU would have had a extra coherent asylum and migration machine, may a majority of these deaths and all this human struggling were averted?

Ylva Johansson, EU Commissioner for House Affairs

Sure, I feel so. I feel we’re susceptible in two sides. First, the loss of an settlement to care for migration is helping the narrative of migration being one thing poisonous and hard. And that’s in reality what a regime just like the Lukashenko regime are the usage of.

Méabh Mc Mahon, Euronews

And I learn your weblog there this weekend and also you wrote that member states are telling you that this disaster displays that the Ecu Union urgently must agree at the pact. What’s it as much as them to agree at the pact? Why may not they?

Ylva Johansson, EU Commissioner for House Affairs

Sure. And I feel that we will be able to see, I am hoping, and I assume, that we will be able to see a brand new momentum at the pact from the member states as a result of I feel it is be increasingly more glaring to do increasingly more member states that the loss of an settlement makes us extra susceptible than we wish to be. And that is what we have now observed now from Belarus, that it isn’t a migration disaster. They have got used human beings to instrumentalise them. However it isn’t in reality a migration disaster. It is a geopolitical disaster.

Méabh Mc Mahon, Euronews

It is usually a humanitarian disaster with such a lot of other folks demise. And I imply, you might have been blaming Belarus from the from the beginning. However what about Poland, EU member state Poland? I spoke to an activist there at the flooring, and she or he stated the Polish military is ‘destroying the telephones of other folks, beating them up, dividing households, pushing again refugees. It sounds a little bit like Poland is simply as merciless as Lukashenko.

Ylva Johansson, EU Commissioner for House Affairs

No, I feel you have to perceive who began all this, who’s the only guilty because the Lukashenko. He is the only luring other folks into an overly, very bad state of affairs. So that is necessary to bear in mind, however it is usually necessary to keep in mind that we don’t seem to be Lukashenko, we’re the Ecu Union. In fact, we wish to agree to different requirements, and that is the reason why I have been calling at the Polish executive to be extra clear. I feel it is in reality an issue with a loss of transparency of what is going on the Polish facet and in addition the loss of get right of entry to for organisations like UNHCR and IOM.

Méabh Mc Mahon, Euronews

Smartly, that is what I wish to ask you since you say the place the Ecu Union used to be intended to be now an recommend for press freedom, however but reporters don’t seem to be even allowed to get in and document the tale.

Ylva Johansson, EU Commissioner for House Affairs

Yeah. And I feel that this isn’t the precise factor. We’d like transparency. We’d like get right of entry to for media, we want get right of entry to for NGOs. And naturally, additionally we want compliance with our basic rights. And I should say that I want to warn a little bit of the I listen voices now pronouncing that we’ve got to select whether or not we must offer protection to our exterior borders or if we must offer protection to the precise to use for asylum and basic rights. And that is in reality a false entice as a result of we will do each and we need to do each. Another way, we don’t seem to be in reality Ecu.

Méabh Mc Mahon, Euronews

And simply in regards to the humanitarian attitude, I imply, what’s going to occur to these migrants who desire a protected haven? Do you need to peer them disbursed around the continent?

Ylva Johansson, EU Commissioner for House Affairs

What we have now now’s that round seven thousand 5 hundred have been registered in Lithuania, Poland and Latvia, and they’re, I assume maximum of them will practice for asylum and they’re going to have an asylum procedure. If the member states ask for strengthen, in fact, we would supply that.

Méabh Mc Mahon, Euronews

However Poland hasn’t requested for assist but or may not permit Frontex to the world, however will permit the British army pass there. How does that make you’re feeling?

Ylva Johansson, EU Commissioner for House Affairs

I feel it. In fact, Frontex. Lets by no means impose Frontex on any member states. It has to come back that the individuals, they want to have the strengthen of Frontex. However I in reality assume it is a in reality excellent thought to have Frontex at our exterior borders as a result of now you have to display that those are EU exterior borders and that I feel the presence of Frontex displays that. And that also is a excellent resolution and a message against Belarus.

Méabh Mc Mahon, Euronews

OK, only one ultimate query. Are you making plans to consult with the area? Or most likely you will not be allowed in both. Identical to the Council of Europe’s head of human rights wasn’t allowed in.

Ylva Johansson, EU Commissioner for House Affairs

I don’t have any plans to move there at this time, however I am hoping to be in shut touch with the Polish minister briefly.

Méabh Mc Mahon, Euronews

OK. We’re going to catch up quickly on that. Thanks such a lot over your good-looking commissioner there for House Affairs and migration. Thank you for being our visitor at the world dialog.

Ylva Johansson, EU Commissioner for House Affairs

Sure. thanks.


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