In his recently published book, Fareed Zakaria, tv host, columnist, and chair of the lately established International Strategy Forum, outlines the principle pillars, developments and fault strains of a post-pandemic world. He joins Mark Leonard to debate the political, geopolitical, and geo-economic adjustments to the world order. How did the world react to the struggle on Ukraine? What are the reactions to those reactions? Will globalisation get replaced by fragmentation?