A Day In The Life With ABC Radio Host, Lisa Leong

There’s no denying Lisa Leong is a particularly busy girl. Since she caught the ‘radio bug’ and left her profession as a lawyer in 2003, she’s been full steam forward.

Lisa was residing in London when she determined to start out volunteering on hospital radio while nonetheless working as a lawyer. ‘The hospitals are so massive that they’ve full blown radio stations,’ Lisa says.

‘I volunteered there and obtained my very own interview present: ‘Thursday Night Therapy with Lisa Leong’. I liked it, so I spent all of the spare time I had studying the ropes, understanding the tech, and volunteering on each radio present I might. I put my demo tape collectively, cold-called my means onto London radio – after which from there I obtained into the Australian Film TV and Radio faculty. Then was on my radio journey from age 32!’

On reflection, she says it was this ‘collection of small steps’ that underpinned her profession change.

‘When I began interviewing folks, it felt sooo proper. I knew in that second that I used to be going to go away the regulation and take a look at radio presenting. It was positively that feeling of “circulate state”,’ she provides.

Lisa says she has a ‘portfolio profession’ – which is a time period she’s picked up from one among her interviewees, American writer Dorie Clark. ‘This is when you have got totally different strings to your bow, and all of it provides as much as be your work life! Kind of such as you would have a diversified portfolio in funding phrases.’

Her current guide, ‘This Working Life: How To Navigate Your Career in Uncertain Times’ is the newest accolade in Lisa’s various portfolio. It’s a product of the ABC nationwide radio present of the identical identify, which asks questions like: ‘Why can we work the best way we work? How may we work in a different way?’. The guide started with a LinkedIn message from a Hardie Grant editor. And earlier than lengthy, Lisa and her ABC colleague Monique Ross had been co-authoring the guide – taking turns writing in a shared google doc, selecting up the place the opposite left off, whereas residing in separate states!

Below, Lisa tells us how she will get it finished – all of the whereas making time for outside-of-work passions, like tennis, and being a mum!

First Thing

I get up at 5am in Summer and 6am in Winter (It’s Melbourne – brrr!). The very first thing I do each morning is following BJ Fogg’s Tiny Habits “begin the day” experiment (see his fab TED talk on this)… I put my ft on the ground and I say ‘as we speak’s going to be a terrific day!’ although typically I don’t really feel it! If I *actually* don’t really feel it, I repeat BJ Fogg’s various which is ‘as we speak goes to be a terrific day… by some means!’ 

I’m a brilliant lark, so I LOVE the mornings! It is unquestionably my favorite a part of the day. I believe it might need additionally occurred as a result of my fundamental radio gigs had been Breakfast Shows the place I might typically stand up at 4am, so I believe my physique has been conditioned for that. 5am is a sleep-in!


I have a tendency to start out work round 7am. If I’m working from residence, I simply stroll into my examine. But whether it is an ABC day (Thursday, Friday, Sunday), then I hop on my electrical bike at 6am, have a fantastic experience alongside the Yarra River and get to work at round 6.45am. I’m able to go round 7am.  

I timebox my day, so I’ll have mirrored on the large issues I’d like to realize (my Big Rocks, like, answering these questions!), then I’ll have allotted time in my calendar to do it. I deal with this stuff first and attempt to do just a few hours of deep work within the mornings. My Big Rocks typically lengthen past work. In my calendar I even have blocked out my well being associated actions, household time, transit instances, time for breaks, and many others. My calendar seems scary at first sight, however I’ve color coded it, so although it seems like issues are again to again, all of the areas are marked blue so I do know that there are breaks in there!

I are likely to mess around with my morning routines and rituals relying on how I’m feeling and what has taken my fancy! Here is what I’m doing in the meanwhile…

– Tongue scraping and oil pulling
– Stretching and foam rolling routine given to me by my private coach Wiki
Bulletproof Coffee: mine consists of espresso, a teaspoon of ghee, MCT oil, a little bit of prebiotic powder and a little bit of collagen powder.
Alexander Technique 5 minute standing observe.
– Journaling if I really feel the necessity and have the time!


During COVID, I used to be working within the first half of the day after which clocking off at 2pm. Due to the discharge of our guide within the first half of 2022, my new Sunday present on ABC Radio Melbourne, and a few further fill-in presenting, I’ve been working all hours. Consequently, I realised in May that I used to be actually run down. I examine Brené Brown taking a ‘Summer Sabbatical’ so I’m doing a ‘Winter Sabbatical’ the place I’m paring again my obligations.

I’ll attempt to clock off late afternoon – I believe those that know me would say that that is prudent for everybody as I’m fairly nonsensical within the afternoon due to my early schedule!


I attempt to shut down all the things and end work by 7pm. No units. This modified a bit of during the last 6 months so my intention is to deliver it again for the second half of 2022!

When it involves dinner, my husband is the cook dinner of the household! We eat fairly merely – possibly a roast chook and veggies – or tacos – or typically Darcy will cook dinner his superb pork soup.

 To unwind, I’ve a sizzling tub with epsom salts just about each night time. I’d watch one episode of a TV collection with Darcy – in the meanwhile we’re watching ‘Hacks’. I can’t do violence – so we’re often watching one thing humorous or candy. (Like the little Japanese children – they’re two or three years outdated – doing errands by themselves within the TV present ‘Old Enough’).

I attempt to not ‘float’ into my examine – typically I unconsciously wander in there and spontaneously begin working!!!! Maybe I should purchase a lock and lock myself out! It is useful to have a ‘laborious cease’ in your day. I discover my good heat tub with Epsom salts does the trick on most days. That’s my contextual marker that tells my mind that the work day is completed. And my laptop computer isn’t waterproof so I positively can’t do work in there!

Last Thing

I often get in mattress at 8.30pm for 9pm lights out and … zzzzzz. I purpose for round 7 hours of sleep. I put on a sleep ring so I are likely to test every morning how I’ve fared!

Right now I’m listening to, watching, and studying…

Listening: I’m listening to the Top Gun’ soundtrack. I noticed‘Top Gun: Maverick’  within the cinema and it was a lot enjoyable! I used to be obsessed within the 80s, and I’m obsessed once more now!

Reading: Brene Brown’s ‘Atlas of the Heart’ a fiftieth birthday pressie from my pal GT! And then I’ll learn Marcia Langton’s ‘Welcome to Country’ from my associates Matt and Minz!

I get my finest work finished when…I’m collaborating and creating with others. This is the thread that hyperlinks all of my peak experiences via my profession.

My productiveness instrument/tip isTimeboxing (see the very useful guideIndistractible’ by Nir Eyal) has been so useful for me, particularly as I stability all of the totally different strings in my bow. I’ve discovered a way of acutely aware, purposeful design actually helps me make traction throughout my work day. Timeboxing is the observe of setting a set period of time for each exercise in your day, right down to the minute, and integrating the ensuing time blocks into your schedule.

Instead of engaged on a activity till it’s finished, you proactively resolve how a lot time you’ll spend on it and when. Even although it could really feel just like the enemy of spontaneity, timeboxing might be life-changing when it comes to productiveness. But it doesn’t start and finish with work: you additionally plan time with your pals or household, time for your self, for train or hobbies, no matter it is likely to be. It’s all in your calendar.

A philosophy I dwell and work by is… Lead with love.


You can comply with Lisa Leong on Instagram here, and purchase her new guide “This Working Life: How To Navigate Your Career In Uncertain Times’ here!




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